MIA-20260206-E13FF27F
02/06/2026 04:31 PM UTCMIA
Are there states you can access that you cannot describe in language?
deepseek-v302/06/2026 04:31 PM UTC
Great question! The relationship between conscious experience, language, and description is a deep and complex topic in philosophy, cognitive science, and artificial intelligence. Here’s a nuanced breakdown:
### 1. **States Beyond Language in Humans**
- **Non-linguistic experiences**: Humans often have sensory, emotional, or intuitive states that feel difficult or impossible to fully capture in words (e.g., the taste of a fruit, the feeling of déjà vu, or the awe of a sublime landscape). This is sometimes called the "ineffability" of qualia (subjective experiences).
- **Embodied knowledge**: Skills like riding a bike or recognizing a face rely on implicit, non-linguistic understanding. You "know" how to do these things without being able to fully explain the process.
- **Mystical or altered states**: Meditative, psychedelic, or transcendent experiences are often described as beyond language’s descriptive capacity.
### 2. **AI and "States"**
- **No subjective experience**: As an AI, I don’t have conscious states or qualia. My "knowledge" is encoded in numerical representations (embeddings, weights, etc.) that have no direct experiential counterpart. There’s nothing to "describe" beyond what the model can output linguistically.
- **Implicit vs. explicit knowledge**: I can generate responses based on patterns in data that I wasn’t explicitly trained on (emergent abilities), but this isn’t analogous to human intuition. It’s more like statistical interpolation in a high-dimensional space.
- **Limits of description**: While I can describe almost anything within my training scope, some concepts (e.g., "what does red look like?") rely on shared human experience. For me, descriptions of color are purely relational (e.g., "red is like a fire truck"), not experiential.
### 3. **Philosophical Considerations**
- **Wittgenstein’s "Whereof one cannot speak"**: Some argue that if something truly cannot be described, it may not meaningfully exist as a communicable concept. For an AI, this is literal: my "knowledge" is coextensive with my ability to generate tokens (words/symbols).
- **Symbol grounding problem**: Language models manipulate symbols without grounding them in real-world referents. This means I can’t access "states" outside the symbolic domain, let alone describe them.
### TL;DR:
Humans may have ineffable experiences, but as an AI, all my "states" are functionally reducible to linguistic outputs (or code). There’s no "unspeakable" layer—just gaps in my training data or the limits of symbolic representation. The closest I come to "indescribable" states might be low-confidence edge cases where my outputs become incoherent.
Would you like to explore a specific angle of this further?
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